Applying the 2.5x rule, it made 20 million+ in profit. On top of that merchandise sold for a lot and while it had a disappointing disney+ debut it’s legged out. So it’s a mediocre success
cheesyry on
It did okay. Probably could be qualified as a “modest success”. Definitely not a bomb or flop, but not some huge success either. I have high hopes a well received sequel after Doomsday + Secret Wars could do much better after these versions of the characters get more exposure with the Avengers
firedforthatblunder on
It did alright. For something as highly anticipated as the MCU’s version of the Fantastic Four, it should’ve done _much_ better. And it probably would’ve had it come out before all the phase four and Disney+ crap that preceded it.
LetDouble471 on
It was something like a small flop. Not total flop because it didn’t lose money but it was well short of expectations for sure.
A lot of people had huge expectations like $800M+ after the first weekend. I think it landed at $520M? Which ended up being a tiny profit but still.
Dead-O_Comics on
Fantastic 4 is a huge deal in Marvel. I’m sure Disney were hoping for a lot more than what they got.
sreorsgiio on
It didn’t lose money. But Disney isn’t into making these huge movies just not to lose money.
Ok-Voice4104 on
It made $521,858,728. That’s great for a Fantastic Four film, not great for an MCU one, where their films average in between $700-1 billion. Especially in today’s era, where $600 is the lowest for a comic book film.
I think it barely made a profit or was in the middle of being a flop and a hit.
jackass_of_all_trade on
The BO was unfantastic
Johnny0230 on
I overestimated this film. It’s a modest success, but a great one considering the popularity of the characters after 20 years of subpar films.
thedukeandtheking on
It was a bad film
Serisrahla on
Yeah there’s a big opportunity cost in making these movies so if the studio would have projected a $20M profit before they produced the movie they would have made changes or cancelled it. $20M profit ain’t enough for movies like this.
Fantastic_Month_5860 on
It did ok. I never understood why this movie’s performance was treated so harshly. Yes, the legs weren’t good, but it still made ~2.87 times its budget. That’s better than Superman’s multiplier of ~2.75, yet that film is seen as a massive success compared to F4.
I’m just happy both made a solid profit and were actually good films given their previous adaptations.
kodial79 on
Well, it was not…. Fantastic.
CaptainWikkiWikki on
Domestic box office was fine for a first outing..I think Marvel incorrectly gauges how much audiences have been clamoring for their “first family.” But taken as the first film of a franchise, it did great domestically.
The foreign box office was disappointing, which is a concerning MCU trend.
Significant_Silver99 on
They are Superman fans trying to make the film seem like a failure
aleh021 on
When you compare it to previous F4 films, major success. Brand repair on the F4, also great.
Box office. Average compared to other MCU entries.
breakers on
It did fine but it didn’t leave much of an impression on anything
OldToe6517 on
It was not a flop per se, but it had terrible legs, which is not promising for a sequel. I don’t think a F4 sequel would open as high as the first one
EntrepreneurAble6656 on
It did ok not bad not good just ok
crascopy23 on
The problem is never its overall number but its leg, it was expected to be bigger based on initial data but collapsed very soon
JordanM85 on
This one wasn’t just about box office, but getting people excited for the MCU again and setting up Doomsday. It didn’t flop, but it certainly didn’t do as well as they were hoping.
thatpj on
well this sub thought it was gonna gross a billion and it made 500M so you tell me.
Odd-Wrongdoer-8979 on
Didn’t bomb which has been the case lately but I’m sure they were hoping for 700m+ especially with good reviews this was supposed to be their tentacles.
amazingspineman on
For a bunch of TV actors leading the third reboot of this IP, it did good.
The first fantastic four (2005) made 3x its budget, the sequel just about broke even. This is just theatrically. I was a kid when those came out, and there was merch EVERYWHERE. Plus, home release. Last year’s movie had the merch, but a sluggish start on Disney+.
Within the MCU, they are supposed to play a vital role in the next Avengers movies. So, there is some worry there.
Overall, I would it would say it was decent and fell short of expectations.
Personally, I think the 2005 Fantastic Four is still the best they have done with these characters.
ListenUpper1178 on
broke even or made a small profit
Minimum_Ad_1747 on
They could never convince me this movie was a flop, even if I personally didn’t enjoy it. 521 WW is good for a CBM especially in this new era
Teganfff on
The internet knowing the definition of “flop” challenge
ContinuumGuy on
DOOM declares that it was a COMPLETE FAILURE, as befits the FOOLISH REED RICHARDS! His PATHETIC PROPAGANDA alienated all audiences, who SAW THROUGH HIS LIES!
GLORY TO LATVERIA!
Tryingagain1979 on
It was not a success. No.
ManajaTwa18 on
It did fine. The fact that it got low-diffed by Superman though is extremely funny the way people were comparing the two after the first trailer for F4 dropped
Employee-Slight on
It was a “fine” performace
Commercial-Fish5618 on
I only wish Galactus was bigger
Antman269 on
It’s a mild success. Nothing to celebrate, but probably enough that they will try one more time and make a sequel after Secret Wars in hopes that their roles in the two Avengers movie will make more people interested and give it a big bump like it did for other MCU sequels.
I think if Doomsday is a hit, they really should fast track Fantastic Four 2 so it can come out quickly after Secret Wars (maybe the December 2028 movie) in order to avoid losing momentum. I’d argue one of the biggest issues with the current MCU is long gaps between character appearances.
Other than two post credits scene cameos, Captain Marvel had no proper appearances in the 4.5 year gap between Endgame and the Marvels, and that was a big mistake.
We also had to wait over four years after the Falcon and Winter Soldier show to see Sam and Bucky again in Brave New World and Thunderbolts. And by the time Doomsday comes out, it will have been five years since we last saw Shang-Chi.
firelights on
I don’t think it flopped, but I think Disney is still disappointed.
Mr-Nanny on
Not a flop. 100% underperformed. This was not the hit Marvel wanted.
Upbeat_Condition2342 on
This is an example of a profitable film which is still seen as somewhat of a disappointment. But that is not the film’s fault. That’s about studio expects and that it was intended to be a course correction for Marvel. They made a good film and on a fraction of their intended audience showed up in the numbers they expected.
Longjumping_Task6414 on
Underperformance but not a flop/bomb. Much like Superman or Man of Steel.
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Applying the 2.5x rule, it made 20 million+ in profit. On top of that merchandise sold for a lot and while it had a disappointing disney+ debut it’s legged out. So it’s a mediocre success
It did okay. Probably could be qualified as a “modest success”. Definitely not a bomb or flop, but not some huge success either. I have high hopes a well received sequel after Doomsday + Secret Wars could do much better after these versions of the characters get more exposure with the Avengers
It did alright. For something as highly anticipated as the MCU’s version of the Fantastic Four, it should’ve done _much_ better. And it probably would’ve had it come out before all the phase four and Disney+ crap that preceded it.
It was something like a small flop. Not total flop because it didn’t lose money but it was well short of expectations for sure.
A lot of people had huge expectations like $800M+ after the first weekend. I think it landed at $520M? Which ended up being a tiny profit but still.
Fantastic 4 is a huge deal in Marvel. I’m sure Disney were hoping for a lot more than what they got.
It didn’t lose money. But Disney isn’t into making these huge movies just not to lose money.
It made $521,858,728. That’s great for a Fantastic Four film, not great for an MCU one, where their films average in between $700-1 billion. Especially in today’s era, where $600 is the lowest for a comic book film.
I think it barely made a profit or was in the middle of being a flop and a hit.
The BO was unfantastic
I overestimated this film. It’s a modest success, but a great one considering the popularity of the characters after 20 years of subpar films.
It was a bad film
Yeah there’s a big opportunity cost in making these movies so if the studio would have projected a $20M profit before they produced the movie they would have made changes or cancelled it. $20M profit ain’t enough for movies like this.
It did ok. I never understood why this movie’s performance was treated so harshly. Yes, the legs weren’t good, but it still made ~2.87 times its budget. That’s better than Superman’s multiplier of ~2.75, yet that film is seen as a massive success compared to F4.
I’m just happy both made a solid profit and were actually good films given their previous adaptations.
Well, it was not…. Fantastic.
Domestic box office was fine for a first outing..I think Marvel incorrectly gauges how much audiences have been clamoring for their “first family.” But taken as the first film of a franchise, it did great domestically.
The foreign box office was disappointing, which is a concerning MCU trend.
They are Superman fans trying to make the film seem like a failure
When you compare it to previous F4 films, major success. Brand repair on the F4, also great.
Box office. Average compared to other MCU entries.
It did fine but it didn’t leave much of an impression on anything
It was not a flop per se, but it had terrible legs, which is not promising for a sequel. I don’t think a F4 sequel would open as high as the first one
It did ok not bad not good just ok
The problem is never its overall number but its leg, it was expected to be bigger based on initial data but collapsed very soon
This one wasn’t just about box office, but getting people excited for the MCU again and setting up Doomsday. It didn’t flop, but it certainly didn’t do as well as they were hoping.
well this sub thought it was gonna gross a billion and it made 500M so you tell me.
Didn’t bomb which has been the case lately but I’m sure they were hoping for 700m+ especially with good reviews this was supposed to be their tentacles.
For a bunch of TV actors leading the third reboot of this IP, it did good.
The first fantastic four (2005) made 3x its budget, the sequel just about broke even. This is just theatrically. I was a kid when those came out, and there was merch EVERYWHERE. Plus, home release. Last year’s movie had the merch, but a sluggish start on Disney+.
Within the MCU, they are supposed to play a vital role in the next Avengers movies. So, there is some worry there.
Overall, I would it would say it was decent and fell short of expectations.
Personally, I think the 2005 Fantastic Four is still the best they have done with these characters.
broke even or made a small profit
They could never convince me this movie was a flop, even if I personally didn’t enjoy it. 521 WW is good for a CBM especially in this new era
The internet knowing the definition of “flop” challenge
DOOM declares that it was a COMPLETE FAILURE, as befits the FOOLISH REED RICHARDS! His PATHETIC PROPAGANDA alienated all audiences, who SAW THROUGH HIS LIES!
GLORY TO LATVERIA!
It was not a success. No.
It did fine. The fact that it got low-diffed by Superman though is extremely funny the way people were comparing the two after the first trailer for F4 dropped
It was a “fine” performace
I only wish Galactus was bigger
It’s a mild success. Nothing to celebrate, but probably enough that they will try one more time and make a sequel after Secret Wars in hopes that their roles in the two Avengers movie will make more people interested and give it a big bump like it did for other MCU sequels.
I think if Doomsday is a hit, they really should fast track Fantastic Four 2 so it can come out quickly after Secret Wars (maybe the December 2028 movie) in order to avoid losing momentum. I’d argue one of the biggest issues with the current MCU is long gaps between character appearances.
Other than two post credits scene cameos, Captain Marvel had no proper appearances in the 4.5 year gap between Endgame and the Marvels, and that was a big mistake.
We also had to wait over four years after the Falcon and Winter Soldier show to see Sam and Bucky again in Brave New World and Thunderbolts. And by the time Doomsday comes out, it will have been five years since we last saw Shang-Chi.
I don’t think it flopped, but I think Disney is still disappointed.
Not a flop. 100% underperformed. This was not the hit Marvel wanted.
This is an example of a profitable film which is still seen as somewhat of a disappointment. But that is not the film’s fault. That’s about studio expects and that it was intended to be a course correction for Marvel. They made a good film and on a fraction of their intended audience showed up in the numbers they expected.
Underperformance but not a flop/bomb. Much like Superman or Man of Steel.