A part of me feels that the original analogy wouldn’t have worked with the framework they built.
Ngl, having it now as something neurodivergent adjacent works much better
gunslinger_006 on
I adored Elio just the way it released in theaters.
Im not saying that changing the premise of Elio being gay was the right or wrong call, but the final product as they released it was amazing.
Its the first pixar film in a while that hit me hard in the feels.
the_colonelclink on
I’ll come out and say it: good. I’m fully supportive of LGBTQ+ but I don’t think any movie/writer should be forced to change their movie to fit the politics (any politics) of the day. Especially when it’s so superficial.
Creative_Eye7413 on
That doesn’t surprise me. It’s a good message but can alienate a section of the audience. Pixar is still a business after all
SweeTTomatoSauce on
I’m more curious about how much it actually affected the story. Sometimes these things are a big plot change, sometimes it’s just a small character detail.
urgasmic on
“Pete Docter Says Pixar Cut LGBTQ Storyline From ‘Elio’ Because ‘We’re Making a Movie, Not Hundreds of Millions of Dollars of Therapy’”
Is that not pixar’s whole thing? This guy directed Up for fuck’s sake.
internetlad on
Toy story is already Pixar’s gay anthem
chiefbroson on
Good to hear
LooseSeal88 on
I’m surprised to hear Pete Doctor (director of Monster’s Inc, Up, and Inside Out) be so harsh about this topic, but I guess this (pulled from his wiki) probably explains it:
“During an interview in 2009, Docter confirmed that he is a Christian and said that it influences his work. However, he went on to say that he did not envision himself ever creating a Christian film.[10] About the relationship between his faith and his filmmaking, Docter has said:
“I don’t think people in any way, shape, or form like to be lectured to. When people go to a movie, they want to see some sort of experience of themselves on the screen. They don’t come to be taught. So in that sense, and in terms of any sort of beliefs, I don’t want to feel as though I’m ever lecturing or putting an agenda forth.””
WEEGEMAN on
Pixar doesn’t do it for me anymore. The core pathos of their movies follow the same format and all generally hit the same.
The last movie was I was really excited to see was Onward. I love fantasy, and I was excited to see Pixar’s take on a fantasy. Instead it was another “dead parent” movie.
BeauShowTV on
Not every movie needs an LGB story line.
Deceptiveideas on
This article was posted before but another point he made was they made the bias Hoppers more “neutral” rather than pro-environmental. I thought that was an interesting choice.
LanaDelHeeey on
Every time I see something about this movie, I just remember Call Me By Your Name where he goes “Elio Elio Elio Elio”
breakers on
I’m positive Strange World and Lightyear both suffered greatly from their LGBT representation and directly affected this
unfoldyourself on
I think something that people here are missing is that the original cut was testing poorly. It’s not like they cut it out when it was just in the preproduction phase, they tried it but it wasn’t working. I’m queer and I want an unambiguously queer Pixar movie, but I also want it to be good.
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A part of me feels that the original analogy wouldn’t have worked with the framework they built.
Ngl, having it now as something neurodivergent adjacent works much better
I adored Elio just the way it released in theaters.
Im not saying that changing the premise of Elio being gay was the right or wrong call, but the final product as they released it was amazing.
Its the first pixar film in a while that hit me hard in the feels.
I’ll come out and say it: good. I’m fully supportive of LGBTQ+ but I don’t think any movie/writer should be forced to change their movie to fit the politics (any politics) of the day. Especially when it’s so superficial.
That doesn’t surprise me. It’s a good message but can alienate a section of the audience. Pixar is still a business after all
I’m more curious about how much it actually affected the story. Sometimes these things are a big plot change, sometimes it’s just a small character detail.
“Pete Docter Says Pixar Cut LGBTQ Storyline From ‘Elio’ Because ‘We’re Making a Movie, Not Hundreds of Millions of Dollars of Therapy’”
Is that not pixar’s whole thing? This guy directed Up for fuck’s sake.
Toy story is already Pixar’s gay anthem
Good to hear
I’m surprised to hear Pete Doctor (director of Monster’s Inc, Up, and Inside Out) be so harsh about this topic, but I guess this (pulled from his wiki) probably explains it:
“During an interview in 2009, Docter confirmed that he is a Christian and said that it influences his work. However, he went on to say that he did not envision himself ever creating a Christian film.[10] About the relationship between his faith and his filmmaking, Docter has said:
“I don’t think people in any way, shape, or form like to be lectured to. When people go to a movie, they want to see some sort of experience of themselves on the screen. They don’t come to be taught. So in that sense, and in terms of any sort of beliefs, I don’t want to feel as though I’m ever lecturing or putting an agenda forth.””
Pixar doesn’t do it for me anymore. The core pathos of their movies follow the same format and all generally hit the same.
The last movie was I was really excited to see was Onward. I love fantasy, and I was excited to see Pixar’s take on a fantasy. Instead it was another “dead parent” movie.
Not every movie needs an LGB story line.
This article was posted before but another point he made was they made the bias Hoppers more “neutral” rather than pro-environmental. I thought that was an interesting choice.
Every time I see something about this movie, I just remember Call Me By Your Name where he goes “Elio Elio Elio Elio”
I’m positive Strange World and Lightyear both suffered greatly from their LGBT representation and directly affected this
I think something that people here are missing is that the original cut was testing poorly. It’s not like they cut it out when it was just in the preproduction phase, they tried it but it wasn’t working. I’m queer and I want an unambiguously queer Pixar movie, but I also want it to be good.
Thank god, keep that shit out of kids movies.