I am a middle class middle-aged white guy from a flyover state.
I know the experience that I have had in my life, and I know the experience that everyone in my tiny town has had because we all grew up together and we all live together.
I like movies, in large part, because it is an accessible way to see the world when you are too broke to travel to far away places.
I want to see diverse stories told by diverse people
Stock-Ad2495 on
Young kids especially need representation
thebigeverybody on
I can’t wait for the usual idiots to get angry about this.
gamersecret2 on
Most people just want good stories, and a cast that looks like the real world does not hurt that at all.
The real problem is when studios treat diversity like a marketing line instead of hiring great writers and making a good movie.
sleep-exe on
I definitely do.
I’m actually really tired of GENERIC WHITE STRAIGHT ACTION MAN and have been for decades.
UatuThePervert on
No shit.
jackcatalyst on
Does any of this actually correlate as the diverse casting itself being the reason for success of these films? The showed a bunch of categories that had primarily white audiences as not doing as well but when have biographies been the top ticket sellers for films?
Exciting_Place_6817 on
I prefer good writing, stories and emotion. I don’t care who is delivering it.
masegesege_ on
If it’s existing property being adapted I’d prefer that characters look the way they were described in the source material. But at the end of the day, I don’t really care so long as the story is good.
An example of a race swap that made me raise my eyebrow at first was Corlys Velaryon in House of the Dragon. But the actor is great and it actually makes sense in the context of the story, might even help it.
Rings of Power casting is a bit overboard considering Tolkien clearly described elves as being pale. But I’d care a lot less if the show weren’t garbage.
Having said that, I’d prefer if Hollywood made movies where diversity makes sense. How about some cool futuristic settings? Not just cyberpunk or space but what about steampunk or settings like in Final Fantasy where they’ve got lasers, castles, knights, and airships?
AidilAfham42 on
Just make a good movie, then none of that will matter. I’m Asian and its even more insulting if you stick a token Asian person in there just to tick the box.
No-Cat1037 on
Some groups are way over-represented and some under-represented…
kon--- on
I don’t give one bit of care about the diversity of a cast. The whole entire cast can look nothing like I do, be unlike me in every way to the point of not being a human…I don’t care.
My concerns are good story telling, intriguing characters, and polished production levels.
Diversity is nowhere to be found in my prioties.
Azryhael on
Diversity is great when it makes sense, but when you’re shoehorning folks of any colour into a historical drama where they wouldn’t have been during that period it’s not great.
But in modern stories? Definitely represent the population, and as long as it’s natural and not deliberate heavy-handed virtue signalling it’s fantastic.
3rdcolor on
ok but can we talk about how movies with diverse casts are usually just better?? they bring different perspectives and energy that makes the whole thing more interesting.
Wide_Open_Buttcheeks on
If it flows well with the film then, sure
But some things that stick out over the years like the women hero scene in end games and all the anti men speeches of how woman have it harder is just suffocating
Hollywood seems to have problems writing a strong woman character who dont feel the need to mention how she hates on the opposite gender
BeautifulLeather6671 on
In the article it seems like the study used really muddy metrics to get to this conclusion. I think people just like quality movies and it turns out a lot of them have diverse casts.
_segasonic on
This was posted yesterday.
This is basically survivorship bias. A couple of days ago Variety were moaning about how little people actually go to the cinema these days. It’s went down 20% in the last 5 years and 50% in the last 20.
Someone could easily argue the opposite based on that.
hmspain on
Seems like a conclusion was already made?
firelights on
Good goy
greenpill98 on
WWII planes that arrive back at base after missions need more armor on the wingtips. Cockpit and engines can be ignored.
Daguvry on
I just want good actors who are great at playing whatever role they are in. I don’t care what they look like/do in their bedroom.
timotheeisnotwrong on
I really done care, like at all
Grins111 on
I don’t care if it’s a talking pillow case. Just make good movies.
slipperyzoo on
Atlanta wasn’t diverse but it was a great show.
HawkHarder on
I think most people don’t care one way or the other.
Minereon on
If you went out and did a survey asking if people if they support diversity, do you think people would give any other answer but the “correct” one?
I support diversity but it should not superficially override the parameters and needs of a good story and an appropriate setting.
69foryourthot on
Looking forward to these comments
tosser1579 on
I love diversity where it makes sense. I really love it where it is appropriate. Diversity for diversity’s sake can be problematic if not handled well.
HtomSirveaux3000 on
When this study isn’t sponsored by Disney, Netflix, Hulu, the Latino Film Institute, The Golden Globes Foundation, and authorized by neutral educational oversight, then perhaps the findings will be easier to believe. This study appears steeped with bias.
It’s akin to a study footed by The American Dairy Association saying people prefer cow milk over oat milk.
reinaldonehemiah on
Sample size of the “report?”
ProgramusSecretus on
Looking at the highest grossing movies of the previous year alone, one can easily see that is not true? What?!
I had my period when I would specifically go to movies that didn’t focus on straight white men. Let me tell you, outside of “Black Panther”, they were all box office flops, no matter the critical acclaim
Piemaster113 on
People prefer natural diversity, not forced diversity. A small village in the English countryside having the same racial diversity as San Francisco is not natural.
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I am a middle class middle-aged white guy from a flyover state.
I know the experience that I have had in my life, and I know the experience that everyone in my tiny town has had because we all grew up together and we all live together.
I like movies, in large part, because it is an accessible way to see the world when you are too broke to travel to far away places.
I want to see diverse stories told by diverse people
Young kids especially need representation
I can’t wait for the usual idiots to get angry about this.
Most people just want good stories, and a cast that looks like the real world does not hurt that at all.
The real problem is when studios treat diversity like a marketing line instead of hiring great writers and making a good movie.
I definitely do.
I’m actually really tired of GENERIC WHITE STRAIGHT ACTION MAN and have been for decades.
No shit.
Does any of this actually correlate as the diverse casting itself being the reason for success of these films? The showed a bunch of categories that had primarily white audiences as not doing as well but when have biographies been the top ticket sellers for films?
I prefer good writing, stories and emotion. I don’t care who is delivering it.
If it’s existing property being adapted I’d prefer that characters look the way they were described in the source material. But at the end of the day, I don’t really care so long as the story is good.
An example of a race swap that made me raise my eyebrow at first was Corlys Velaryon in House of the Dragon. But the actor is great and it actually makes sense in the context of the story, might even help it.
Rings of Power casting is a bit overboard considering Tolkien clearly described elves as being pale. But I’d care a lot less if the show weren’t garbage.
Having said that, I’d prefer if Hollywood made movies where diversity makes sense. How about some cool futuristic settings? Not just cyberpunk or space but what about steampunk or settings like in Final Fantasy where they’ve got lasers, castles, knights, and airships?
Just make a good movie, then none of that will matter. I’m Asian and its even more insulting if you stick a token Asian person in there just to tick the box.
Some groups are way over-represented and some under-represented…
I don’t give one bit of care about the diversity of a cast. The whole entire cast can look nothing like I do, be unlike me in every way to the point of not being a human…I don’t care.
My concerns are good story telling, intriguing characters, and polished production levels.
Diversity is nowhere to be found in my prioties.
Diversity is great when it makes sense, but when you’re shoehorning folks of any colour into a historical drama where they wouldn’t have been during that period it’s not great.
But in modern stories? Definitely represent the population, and as long as it’s natural and not deliberate heavy-handed virtue signalling it’s fantastic.
ok but can we talk about how movies with diverse casts are usually just better?? they bring different perspectives and energy that makes the whole thing more interesting.
If it flows well with the film then, sure
But some things that stick out over the years like the women hero scene in end games and all the anti men speeches of how woman have it harder is just suffocating
Hollywood seems to have problems writing a strong woman character who dont feel the need to mention how she hates on the opposite gender
In the article it seems like the study used really muddy metrics to get to this conclusion. I think people just like quality movies and it turns out a lot of them have diverse casts.
This was posted yesterday.
This is basically survivorship bias. A couple of days ago Variety were moaning about how little people actually go to the cinema these days. It’s went down 20% in the last 5 years and 50% in the last 20.
Someone could easily argue the opposite based on that.
Seems like a conclusion was already made?
Good goy
WWII planes that arrive back at base after missions need more armor on the wingtips. Cockpit and engines can be ignored.
I just want good actors who are great at playing whatever role they are in. I don’t care what they look like/do in their bedroom.
I really done care, like at all
I don’t care if it’s a talking pillow case. Just make good movies.
Atlanta wasn’t diverse but it was a great show.
I think most people don’t care one way or the other.
If you went out and did a survey asking if people if they support diversity, do you think people would give any other answer but the “correct” one?
I support diversity but it should not superficially override the parameters and needs of a good story and an appropriate setting.
Looking forward to these comments
I love diversity where it makes sense. I really love it where it is appropriate. Diversity for diversity’s sake can be problematic if not handled well.
When this study isn’t sponsored by Disney, Netflix, Hulu, the Latino Film Institute, The Golden Globes Foundation, and authorized by neutral educational oversight, then perhaps the findings will be easier to believe. This study appears steeped with bias.
It’s akin to a study footed by The American Dairy Association saying people prefer cow milk over oat milk.
Sample size of the “report?”
Looking at the highest grossing movies of the previous year alone, one can easily see that is not true? What?!
I had my period when I would specifically go to movies that didn’t focus on straight white men. Let me tell you, outside of “Black Panther”, they were all box office flops, no matter the critical acclaim
People prefer natural diversity, not forced diversity. A small village in the English countryside having the same racial diversity as San Francisco is not natural.